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RekaStormborn
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The facts as I know them:

1) After Julianna died and JC rescued Asher, JC bargained 100 years as Belle's slave for her saving Asher.
2) JC, Asher, and Julianna had spent about 20 years together before the above incident.
3) JC left court and Auggie smuggled him to the US after JC's 100 years were up. (This is after 1776 because the colonies are now called the US.)

Things I'm not sure about:
1) JC made a comment about part of it happening 200 years ago. I think he was referring to his time spent with Asher and Julianna, but can't remember if it is that or how long it's been since he saw Asher.

The Anita Wiki, sadly, only has chronology for the 5 years prior to the series.

What I really want to know is how many years (centuries more specifically) has it been since JC left court and fled to the US?

Does anyone have a guess? Or remember what book it was in that JC told Anita about the time frames? I know some of it is explained in Burnt Offerings (which I'm hunting though without success so far...) but I thought more was told in later book maybe?

Thanks for the help! 8-)

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Don't even bother trying to work it out. It's also mentioned that JC was not around because he was visiting his dying mother, and if he's nearly six hundred years old, as is suggested in DM, then even if these events happened only 200 years ago, how was his mother still alive? Classify it as YAABI and put it out of your mind, because the numbers are so crazily non-aligned that unless LKH decides that vampires are Harry Potter and have convenient access to time-turners, it'll never make sense.

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Good point...I'd forgotten about the mother reference. The heck with it then. I get to arbitrarily decide things. Woohoo!

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Sure, If LKH can use a rubber calendar and a rubber clock, why can't we?

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Yup. Yay for arbitrariness!

Ruas, the phrases "rubber calendar" and "rubber clock" probably shouldn't be used again. I sat here for about ten minutes wondering where the hell those could be bought and what kind of strange fetish did they go with before you were talking Flexi-Time©.

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LKH must be a fan of Salvador Dali. Stretchy clocks would be even more useful to LKH. 8-)

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Reka...I'm late to the party, but then again time matters not to LKH...all is true, and all is changing. JC also said that he was in America not too long after the Revolution in one of the novels (DM I think when he recalls Auggie helping him escape)...so that would mean early 1800...if he had 100 years with Belle, that puts Julianna's death somewhere at the beginning of the 18th century. Anita also describes the clothes in their portrait as "Three Musketeer" Style, which is late 17th century. This is the timeline I choose to follow, but it's so negotiable. We also don't really know how much older Asher is than JC...I think at one point Anita senses that Asher is about 100 years older than JC, (In Burnt Offerings she thinks he is about 500). I don't see either of their behavior to be late-medieval, (If JC is 600 that would make him born in the 1400's and if Asher is 100 years older than he would be 1300's), or even Renaissance for that matter, because they seem so "Age of Enlightenment". It seems as though each vampire retains some of the time period to which they were born.

So...after all that ramble, I agree...you can do whatever you want! :) woei

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And I plan to. 8-)

I seem to remember a conversation between Asher and Anita when Asher tells her he originally didn't want JC to come to court because he thought JC would replace him as Belle's favorite. During this conversation he makes a comment about having been with Belle for 10 years (or maybe 15?). Theoretically, that means he's only about ten years older than JC, because JC was 5 years dead when he went to court and Belle made Asher, so he would have been 10 or 15 when JC went to court. At least that's the interpretation I choose to believe. 8-D

I think the original birth period of a vamp isn't as important unless they choose for it to be. Vamps like JC and Damian and Asher seem to have embraced the modern era for the most part and have adapted. Belle chooses to live in pre-Revolution era France (she's supposed to be a hell of a lot older than that, well over 2,000 I think). I guess it's all in how you look at it. ::shrug::

I wonder if I should point out somewhere what facts I'm choosing to follow since LKH gives us options...It might help with allusions I make that are supposed to situate readers in the time line without being blatant about it.

Thanks for all the feedback guys!

8-)

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RekaStormborn wrote:
I think the original birth period of a vamp isn't as important unless they choose for it to be. Vamps like JC and Damian and Asher seem to have embraced the modern era for the most part and have adapted. Belle chooses to live in pre-Revolution era France (she's supposed to be a hell of a lot older than that, well over 2,000 I think). I guess it's all in how you look at it. ::shrug::


I agree with this. Really none of Lydia's vamps follow the norm. If anything they all adapt to the times but retain a sense of who they were in a time they managed to enjoy. Guess that makes them less like to follow the path of Dracula. sad song

Then again all our fav vamps have never been the standard norms. Let's hear it for hottie progressive vamps! welldone wav happy party

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EBF wrote:
Yes I love emoticons ... sue me.


There's nothing wrong with having fun with your emoticons. big grin

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Wow, talk about stumbling on a thread. I haven't been back to this site for the last five years, but I randomly ended up writing another chapter to my story (which was last updated in 2010, lol) and was just up all night trying to figure out this exact issue.

I was trying to work out the dates based on what I could remember was mentioned in the series and eventually just gave up. crybaby For some reason, I was working with the idea that Jean-Claude was only supposed to be around 400 years old from earlier, but I think in the later books the number jumped to 600. Plus JC was supposed to be visiting his dying mother when Julianna got killed, and then you have to add the 100 years of slavery, which was the topic of my entire chapter, and leaving for America after... Basically, the timeline is impossible. woei

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The timeline for many things in AB is impossible. I just learned to run with what I felt like doing and just roll with it. Besides, we all are technically going AU at some point anyway. 8-)

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I "Like" that update Reka! LOL... I actually forgot for a moment I couldn't do that on the forum!

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There are so many things with like features these days you do forget sometimes. 8-)

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